Immortalicide wrote:

John wrote:I saw issue one on sale in Bradford when it started, then i've not seen it anywhere since.

W H Smiths stock it

Not at Bradford WHS they don't. After I saw issue 1 in WHS I went back and asked them what happened to issue 2, issue 3 etc and they told me it'd been taken off the list and they weren't stocking it.

Every time I go in there to see if its back I rummage through all the Terrorizers and Metal Hammers to see if its there, but no.

They stock Zero Tolerance in Train Stations..

I bought the first few issues,but it got harder to find,and the layout really is a bit poor.Haven't got an issue for awhile now,Terrorizer really is a lot better overall.

I think ZT has the potential to be much better than Terrorizer but as other people say here its very poorly written! Latest issue had an article on women in metal and one about downloading, both of which were rubbish and barely scratched the surface of either debate. The reviews are also far too lenient, everything gets a high mark. I'd choose it ove Tz for preference as it features less scene-bumming, but I don't really think either are worth actually paying for.

You can get it in WH Smith in Birmingham and at New Street Station, I sometimes buy it to read on trains.

John wrote:

Immortalicide wrote:

John wrote:I saw issue one on sale in Bradford when it started, then i've not seen it anywhere since.

W H Smiths stock it

Not at Bradford WHS they don't. After I saw issue 1 in WHS I went back and asked them what happened to issue 2, issue 3 etc and they told me it'd been taken off the list and they weren't stocking it.

i have always bought ZT from WH Smiths in Huddersfield, up until the last issue which I couldn't find but picked it up in the train station.

I used to buy it every month - until it just dissappeared from my local Chatham branch WHSmith. Anyone from ZT reading this take note. Your losing money and readers if that's going on all over the UK. Great Mag.

Bestial Bill wrote:When were you at Brum Caps? And what did you study? Which writer is it, out of interest?

I was at Brum doing a political 'science' degree (BA) until july 2005. It was a fucking great time. I used to live in a big student house down raglan road, right next to the hunter court halls. And I used to work at the Texaco on the Pershore Road.

I don't know the writer's name. My friends and I used to call him 'big forehead guy'. His forehead's not even that big but my friend was drunk and the guy was chatting up this girl he fancied when we were at a party. My friend started shouting shit (not aggressive, just a bit rude and cuntish). Someone asked him what he was going to be doing the day after this party and he yelled, 'playing football on that's guys forehead... it's huuuuuuuge!' After that this writer guy always wore a hat that covered it up.

The one thing that will stick in my head is he was playing in some God awful DEP-rip-off band and he shouted 'let's shout a big fuck you to Bush, yeah?' and it just died. Proper. The band after them were pretty good though.

demonic-dave wrote:To be honest ZT does have some good articles but I do find sometimes the colours they use for the background and writing can be very difficult to read.

Yeah, I bought the last issue (at Birmingham New Street station, on a whim...) and enjoyed most of it but that was definately an issue. I had trouble working out what bands one or two of the articles were meant to be about at first, there's some wacky fonts they use.

Some of the articles might not be brilliantly written but on the whole it's definately better than most music magazines. It's good to see something written by people who actually care about music, about bands that are good rather than well-known or being pushed by labels.

I think Terrorizer has better coverage and features on more well-known bands, and if I want to know about underground bands, I'll read a fanzine.

I can't read.

Swarmy wrote:

demonic-dave wrote:To be honest ZT does have some good articles but I do find sometimes the colours they use for the background and writing can be very difficult to read.

Yeah, I bought the last issue (at Birmingham New Street station, on a whim...) and enjoyed most of it but that was definately an issue. I had trouble working out what bands one or two of the articles were meant to be about at first, there's some wacky fonts they use.

On the whole I like ZT. It's written by people who are passionate about the music and it does have some good features, although I do prefer Terrorizer. I do agree on this though...some of the articles in there are really hard to read...one article had white writing on a pink background or something silly...I know they are trying to make the mag look appealing but it's no good having these fancy colours if you can't read the thing!!!

I remember buying the first issue of TERRORIZER (which I still have) and couldn't wait for my local newsagent to get it in every month. It had a free tape with it then TAPES! how ancient does that seem now! I heard SAMAEL's 'Bathomet's Throne' on one of them and have bought everything they have ever done since - including going to two shows of theirs here in the UK. Just goes to show what a little advertising can do. It all had more majick then, when all things extreme metal were rarer and harder to connect with. Now we have the internet (in a big accessable way) it's all very easy. I'm not knocking it! If someone told me then I could afford and implement the means to make my own extreme metal (almost single handed) and get a review in the pages of TERRORIZER, I would have hit the roof! It's all good with the tech but it just means that everything is saturated to the point that you find it hard to care so much.

I still buy TERRORIZER every month - even when if I want to hear a band it's just a click away - WHY?
Because alot of effort goes into the journalism and it makes a good read. You don't really read stuff on the net (exepting forums!) you just glaze over it half bored looking for a thrill that you usually don't find. ZT is a good mag too.

If that guy from TERRORIZER is reading this: Why do SAMAEL get such a hard time in your mag these days? People on the continent love 'em to bits...

William Morton wrote: You don't really read stuff on the net (exepting forums!) you just glaze over it half bored looking for a thrill that you usually don't find.

I'm pretty sure Terrorizer realise they can't compete with news, since it only comes out once a month. Otherwise, that's ALLOONNG time you're waiting for any metal news if you don't read it on the internet. Praise be for the net.

Terrorizer makes its money on features and interviews and reviews, which I think it does pretty well most of the time.

Im far to el33t to read terrorizer or ZT, I have nothing against them, I just trust say Luke's or Bills judgement of a band over a review any day of the week.

William Morton wrote:If that guy from TERRORIZER is reading this: Why do SAMAEL get such a hard time in your mag these days? People on the continent love 'em to bits...

Tapes rule! I still buy them haha!

And Samael get a hard time because THEY'VE BEEN FUCKING RUBBISH SINCE THE THIRD ALBUM. One of the greatest disasters in the history of heavy metal - three absolute killers followed up by tons of total tripe.