thrashduck wrote:Anyways, take a look at this. I'm scared of the consequences.
Especially the little girl at the end, she is terrifying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EkxebsumAw

I'm, never going to Manchester after seeing that...!

Styxx wrote:Some mental guitar playing from Michael Angelo Baito:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb5QaCfm7bg

"Todays lesson" he says "i'm going to teach you how to play fast", then just spends 5 mins showing off the big cock!!!!
And he looks like Mick Mars.............
And he is in a band who are gayer looking than right said fred............
can play a bit tho

\m/Steve\m/ wrote:I find this one amusing and arousing!

http://www.uniquepeek.com/viewpage.php?page_id=801

That is just one of the funniest things ive ever seen!!!!
That gal on the setee, it looks like he's trying to batter her to death with it
Amazing how disney allowed them to use chip n dale to narrate it tho!!!

Hostile wrote:Oh hey guys, lets go advertise our new album "Antichrist" in the middle of a holy war.

*edit* Fucking satellite delay RUINED an otherwise interesting debate. To be honest I expected better from self-respecting metallers. I was actually yelling arguments at the screen in the hope that they would pick them up, and they utterly failed to do so. When you let bullshit patronising Christian dogma be the last word in an argument, you have failed on all levels.

This is so similar to a situation that i was involved in back in 1990 when Channel 4 came to a church in burton and filmed a live discussion by a local pastor called Alex Maloney. He invited a bunch of us to the discussion, and basically stood there and made very ill-informed points about thrash metal (and rock music in general). He was going on about backwards masking in tracks and playing stuff backwards to us, all of which sounded like nothing, apart from Venom who did put the backwards message there just to wind up nobs like him!!! He made presumptions about me and the others who were there, and he didn't have a coherant argument when i confronted him with certain issues and veiwpoints. Religious bigots are the most discriminatory and prejudice people there is!!!

I'll second that. I don't mind people doing what they do and thinking what they think, but the fact is if you started a peaceful protest to have a church shut down, you'd be slated and possibly arrested, but if some christians started a protest to have a rock club shut down, they'd probably succeed. I much preferr the buddhists, if you see one of them in the street they basically just want you to have a good time. Jahova's witnesses aren't that bad either. They listened to Matt when he tried to get them to listen to The Four Horsemen by Metallica, and seemed to enjoy it. Didn't much like Slayer though

Yeh the buddhists are ok in the street. They don't even force the religion upon you, they just ask how you are and stuff, and then give you a book or something and ask for a small bit of dosh, and they're usually quite attractive if female, or funny if male, so i feel obliged to give them some silver...

HARRY HARRY HARRY KRISHNNAA!!!

I still hate organised religion.

Yep. I think the perfect ideal came from the film Dogma. The bit where Chris Rock is talking about a set of ideas rather than beliefs. Kevin Smith defined hitting the nail on the head in that scene! Christian values are a good set of guidelines, which can be said for most religious beliefs, but they aren't absolute, different situations require different actions. For instance, thou shalt not kill. Sounds like a good idea, but what if you're standing with a gun pointed at a bloke 500 yards away who's about to launch a nuclear bomb on central London, and the only part of his body you can see is his head? I'd say that's a pretty good reason to kill someone.

Yeah, I like the Buddhists. It's more of a philosophy than a religion, and I don't think dotting yourself across the country in bright orange and yelling "gouranga" at odd intervals counts as "organised". Plus they sell incense at festivals, the one place where you really NEED a nice smell every now and then.

On the subject of metal VS Christ, I have this t-shirt:



I was actually approached by a Christian metalhead in a night club after he'd read my t-shirt and taken it as an endorsement of Christianity rather than a mockery. Turns out he's a great guy, he used to be heavily into Satanic shit until he tried to kill himself, at which point he found Christ, sold all his Slayer CDs and got into power metal instead.

Haha, he sounds like Dave Mustaine... Although you mentioned "great guy", so obviously not. Yet I still think people who are into religion in a heavy way or seriously misguided, stupid people. It's the same situation as people who believe everything they read in the tabloids...

I liked how the t-shirt said "Jesus is f'king metal". I could never see it saying "Jesus is FUCKING metal"...

Hostile wrote: Plus they sell incense at festivals, the one place where you really NEED a nice smell every now and then.

Shame it smells like burning cat turds.

Religion can bugger off, it has never made me change my way of thinking and it never will. As someone said earlier, good ideas, bad application.

Yeah, I used to know quite a lot of christians, and they kept asking me why I wasn't 'into' it, and I told them I agree with the moral values and everything, but I don't really believe in God. they were actually pretty cool with it, I like those kind of christians, the one's who understand and accept other people independant of their faith. But you can't tell really until you actually speak to them... some are total assholes, but same with everything really!

take this forum and Martin for example

Your Mum's your Dad.

Possibly the greatest comedy sketch known to mankind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO68fUMWx3g

Another absolute class comedy sketch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wippooDL6WE

And this is just brilliant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfP90uJ12eQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyNQC0_tvaw&mode=related&search=

Do be early, don't be late.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jRhgNp-fNc

I haven't seen the film, but does it sound to you like they're saying "WACKEN, WACKEN, WACKEN" all the way through?!?