But to be fair Iain (this isn't me having a go), you do come on this forum, but I'd hardly say you're part of this scene. We can have a good old laugh on the forum, but you don't show that much interest in what's really going on, and obviously because you live so far away you can't come to any of the gigs and see lots of new bands. That's the thing, you can't just sit on the internet and hope to discover good bands on MySpace, the best thing is when you're at a gig and enjoy a band you didn't even know about, then the word gets spread and it's all lovely. I can say this - and I mainly speak for London because I haven't experience anywhere else apart from Birmingham and Wakefield, which have also been great - there really definitely is a UK Thrash scene. We just get so caught up in our own little virtual world on here and think we're the only ones, but there are so many more people out there who don't care about an internet forum and just go to gigs and enjoy the music. That's what I don't get sometimes, when i think about it - we all seem to think this is, or was at one point, the main hub for UK Thrash metal, but surely we aren't the only ones who enjoy thrash.

So basically, my conclusion is that Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce Special Edition (in the big black bottle) is amazingly nice with cheese on toast.

Short northerner answer to the mix... UK thrash scene-wise if you live north of saaaay Crewe then no, gigs aren't attended by forum folk (bar the dozen or so of us who post) up here, nor does it hold relevance.

Most northern bands piss in the wind to break London which is already saturated with more band members than punters like Daza said so most bands don't bother trying... but then miss out on good support slots. Catch 22, if you don't get involved, no-one will involve you.

That said you do really well in Manchester.

There are loads of metalheads around here, but I don't know what they do... there seems to be hordes of rogues metallers all over the place... but I don't know half of them... or where they go, it makes me wonder how they hear about stuff....

like the other day i was just walking through my town and some random guy i've never met before shouts to me across the street so i go and say hi and he's like "you're the guitarist from rager aren't you!??!" hahaha, it was amazing

St.Helens is naff if you dont sound like Slipknot.

Theres a monthly gig that all the kids see to go too. Either outisde taking drugs, then theres the 200 inside. Its funny to play because they all batter each other in the pit. But theres some people there who you just wish would die.

Here times havent moved on since like the year 2000-2003. Machine Head are peoples favourite bands and Slipknot is peoples definition of heavy.

I really want to know what it was like when Jeff Walker was growing up here and the grindcore music really surged here. Its nice to hear about those days from one of mine n Si's tutors who recorded the first Carcass demo, Electro Hippies stuff and Metal Duck!! hahaha. Must have been good here in the 80s

It really pisses me off though, you get the wierdest form of kids here wearing big long black coats and wearing a Blink cap and a Dimmu t-shirt and they're usually stood on a skateboard.

We introduced a lot of kids to Sepultura here, because when me n Si had an older band called Left-Wing other kids there would see us rehearse or jam along, and they all hang around this place called friends garden and if any of them have bands, they cover the same songs that we did, but thats as far as a "thrash scene" goes here, and its a shame because in the 80s it would have been greate here n Liverpool.

Now Liverpool is just a shit hole for the music scene. Fine, theres SSS, but theres hardly anything else. But people with upturned caps and big fringes and silly lip things and big holes in their ears. The guys look like women. The music sounds awful and consists of people hardcore dancing like pricks at the shows.

There used to be a GREAT little venue here in Earlstown (where GoreBastard is), right near his house called The Gravy Train (and now the LGM) and they put Diamond Head on last year but nobody would go with me to that. That place burnt down, its gonna be back in April, but the only way to get something going there is to try n bombard it with metal nights, because the promoters there are all indie freaks. When it comes back im definatly gonna try n put stuff on there because if people around here hear theres something on, they might go. The northwest is a bit shite for thrash scenes overall.


Oh i almost forgot there! We have a free festival here and in the 90s loads of death metal and thrash bands played. Xentrix, Obituary and Napalm Death played that. I just wish something like that could happen again because its only 5 minutes from my house and itd be amazing!



No Thrash for the northwest

It's a shame sometimes to see all these kids, who arent even really kids anymore, and they still only like the same bands that kerrang said were cool almost 10 years ago now (fuckinell!!!), and have only heard other stuff from kerrang more recently.... loads of them (and emo kids) are starting to love Municipal Waste now but they wouldn't say they like thrash?!?!... just kinda frustrating almost....

Is the "Friends Garden" still open Dan? I'd like to go to the "Friends Garden".

Yes... yes it is...

Ukthrash is important because it allowed us to get in contact and keep in contact with what was going on. Bands I listened to and thought were awsome 3 years ago like Evile, Mutant, Gamma Bomb and Pitiful Reign are all bands I have now travelled to see, played with and made friends through. Thats a cool things and there isn't much else I have put so much of an effort into involving myself with. A lot of bands who don't use the forum as much struggle up here because there isn't much going on. Even Exodus struggle to pull a crowd, (mind you when Evile and Gamma Bomb played with them it was packed, well in lads!). There is a scene outwith the forum, but the forum itself keeps it moving in my eyes. For unsigned bands its perfect for making connections and sorting out gigs with likeminded people.

UK Thrash begins and ends in Matlock.

jonny_boy34 wrote:But to be fair Iain (this isn't me having a go), you do come on this forum, but I'd hardly say you're part of this scene. We can have a good old laugh on the forum, but you don't show that much interest in what's really going on, and obviously because you live so far away you can't come to any of the gigs and see lots of new bands. That's the thing, you can't just sit on the internet and hope to discover good bands on MySpace, the best thing is when you're at a gig and enjoy a band you didn't even know about, then the word gets spread and it's all lovely...

What are you jabbering on about?! I'm a bigger part of the scene than half of the bands involved with it!I even wrote Thrash Island by Amok. Well, I didn't actually write any of it but I did come up with the premise of containing a bunch of Thrashers within the confines of a remote island á la a leper colony.

I attended the first Full Thrash Assault and used to frequent gigs in Glasgow. However, I got tired of associating with people who look like extras from Planet of the Apes so I decided to stop going to gigs at all - people at Metal gigs are generally less annoying than non-Metal gigs - and basically stop paying attention to band content on UK Thrash.

amok wrote:Ukthrash is important because it allowed us to get in contact and keep in contact with what was going on. Bands I listened to and thought were awsome 3 years ago like Evile, Mutant, Gamma Bomb and Pitiful Reign are all bands I have now travelled to see, played with and made friends through. Thats a cool things and there isn't much else I have put so much of an effort into involving myself with. A lot of bands who don't use the forum as much struggle up here because there isn't much going on. Even Exodus struggle to pull a crowd, (mind you when Evile and Gamma Bomb played with them it was packed, well in lads!). There is a scene outwith the forum, but the forum itself keeps it moving in my eyes. For unsigned bands its perfect for making connections and sorting out gigs with likeminded people.

You could have summed all of that up by saying, 'I've been posting on here for three years and Amok still only get a crowd of three at gigs... and that includes Hyder and the janitor'. My contention is that there are basically cliques of bands that existed before UK Thrash, have developed during the past three years and MySpace still does most of the leg work in terms of networking.

The only real affect UK Thrash has had on UK Thrash bands is that Heretic are no longer despised to the extent they used to be and more people know how much of a dick that guy from Headless Cross is.

UK Thrash is important because it earned me a punch in the face.

UK Thrash is important for one thing only - Martin's avatar.

For me, UK Thrash doesn't extend outside the forum. If all the bands split up tomorrow, I wouldn't care. For me, UK Thrash is UK Have A Laugh. But I think UK Thrash IS outside the forum. The amount of that happens thrash wise because of this forum. Imagine how many of the fest days would happen. People put stuff on because they know they can count on the people here to turn up, and if it wasn't for this place, they'd just be advertising in the streets, and how many people would that bring it?

UKThrash is the outside of this forum, for thrash that isn't Testament/Megadeth/Metallica etc etc. I doubt the bands like Evile and the like would have got this far without this forum either, as I can imagine a daft amount of support came from here, and once again made it easier for people to become friends and to go the gigs, rather then you and your mate that kinda likes thrash but might not go so then you won't go. Big friends, big turn outs, bit notice, repeat...