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Pat Condell

Postby Atom on Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:10 pm

An Atheist on Youtube who posts up some really great videos just bashing religion. If you have a an account on the sit I urge you to subscribe to him right away! Enjoy!

http://youtube.com/user/patcondell
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby Bangover on Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:22 pm

He's great!

Just found this from the blurb on his youtube home

http://www.cafepress.com/godlesscomedy.197428287

I totally want that. Cooking with Pat by my side....
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby Metal Iain on Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:35 pm

Sorry but, after watching a couple of his videos, he strikes me as an utter tit who is spouting bullshit. The arguments he's using are the same ones I've heard 10 year-olds came out with and are barely more eloquently put. I guess my immediate problem with him is that he chose to launch a one-man YouTube attack on organised religion in the first place. My next problem with him is that he's speaking pretty vaguely about religion - he's basically rehashing something he's heard in the pub - and I reckon anyone who knew their arse from their elbow about their religion of choice would silence him if they could refrain from sounding like a fundamentalist.

I'm not religious in the slightest but really don't mind people who are as long as they don't go on about it. If anything I prefer devoutly religious people to people like Pat Condell because they don't seem to care whether or not a story is plausible as long as it's got some kind of moral to take from it. That and they don't even try to challenge 2, 000 years of ambiguity with a series of YouTube videos...
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby Lev on Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:45 pm

If this is what Dan just linked me to, I see nothing amazing from him. He speaks like a bloody narrator aswell.

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Re: Pat Condell

Postby Metal Iain on Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:49 pm

I've had fifteen, pints of Stella...
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby Atom on Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:55 pm

Come on, he is ok. Its just a nice simplified message, I think he is doing good, not bad for all the atheists out there.
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby Metal Iain on Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:12 pm

Surely trying to refute religion with a simplified message is pretty self-defeating? Religion is a fairly complex subject and, in my experience, sweeping generalisations like the ones he is pedalling are not really enough. Now that I've watched a few more of his videos, I don't really see him putting forward anything concrete. His message seems to be along the lines of: live your life in accordance with your actual beliefs rather than with those put forth in a possibly fictitious book. I reckon that's a bit tricky seeing as most people's beliefs will be shaped to at least some extent by religion.

I don't really see the point in Atheism because you still have to devote a considerable amount of time and effort to religion. Personally, I don't care enough about religion to spend time trying to deny it. Take this guy, for example: he's spending more time thinking and talking about religion than most religious people will be. I can't be ringed with that.
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby Metal Iain on Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:27 pm



Haha!

See, this is why people like Pat Condell seem to gain credibility. Although, he did get his mannerisms down fairly well.
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby boovidge on Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:46 pm

agree with iain on this one. hardcore atheists are just as if not more annoying than very religious people. both groups can't prove theyre right anyway so whats the point?
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby thrash metal maniac on Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:40 pm

Why not just live life your own way and not give a fuck about what other people want to believe/think/do... (within reason obvvvvvv)... making videos to slag off others' way of life is a bit sad IMO
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby boovidge on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:09 pm

i do agree with him about europeans not having the balls to challenge fundementalist islam.
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby Metal Iain on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:12 pm

thrash metal maniac wrote:Why not just live life your own way and not give a fuck about what other people want to believe/think/do... (within reason obvvvvvv)... making videos to slag off others' way of life is a bit sad IMO


I think the problem with that is that things which people generally accept as wrong - cheating, lying, murder, theft and so forth - are also a recurring theme of religion. I'm sure religion pretty much laid the foundation for law or morality even today so it's kind of hard to say you are acting purely in ways you see fit. Well, it's that or assume that people always just somehow knew that killing someone was a lame thing to do but I don't think that's any more credible than religion.
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby James on Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:46 am

I like his videos and I agree with pretty much everything he says. It may not take masses of courage to record a well rehearsed internet rant, but I happen to stand behind most of what he says and find some of it rather entertaining.

boovidge wrote:hardcore atheists are just as if not more annoying than very religious people. both groups can't prove theyre right anyway so whats the point?


I think the thing is, Atheism is not really a doctrine or life code, it is simply the lack of belief in something. Whilst technically every atheist is agnostic, it is only to the extent that you and I are agnostic towards fairies. So I don't really see what being a "hardcore atheist" entails, unless you mean "being a dick and claiming outright that you KNOW there is no spiritual being", which would be called being a dick head, not a sensible atheist.

Good for Pat Condell I say! =D>
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby jonny_boy34 on Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:23 am

Is that not what an Atheist is though - a firm believer in the fact that there is no god? It's not just someone who doesn't believe in god, it's the strong belief that there is definitely no god and that all other religions are wrong. I have said before in life that I'm an Atheist (or rather, an Atheist Jew, if there is such a thing. Atheish, if you will), but I also used to say religions are rubbish because by believing in one you're basically saying that everyone else's belief is wrong, and that's a very arrogant thing to say when you have no evidence of either. The more I think about it, Atheism is very similar - you're saying that you are right in believing there is no god and everyone else is wrong. Which may actually be the case... and the more I think about it, that's probably what I believe... but, I think my point is, I have learnt from past experiences that it is wrong to tell a person of faith that my beliefs are correct, and theirs are not. I should not push my beliefs on to anyone else, for I would hate for someone to do the same to me. At the end of the day, I may believe that there is no god and that all religion is bullshit, but I have no evidence of that, just like they've no evidence of the opposite. I could of course argue that the fact there's no evidence of it means it's probably not true... it's a very complex issue, this. Bloody hell mate.
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Re: Pat Condell

Postby MartinC on Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:30 am

If it makes you happy, it's good for you.
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