Metal Iain wrote:Moreover, isn't Metal Thrashing Mad the first use of the the word Thrash for music?

I believe so!

Whiplash had a song (the very first) called "Thrash 'Til Death" on a demo in 1984!

Metal Iain wrote:

Johnny Tightlips wrote:If Johnny Z had prefered Exodus to Metallica, we would be having this exact same arguement for BBB rather than KEA. And we all know that BBB is FAR better than KEA.

More to the point, weren't Anthrax actually dropped by Johnny Z so that he could finance Kill 'em All?

Meh, yes and no. Metallica were already due to come to New York to record KEA when Anthrax were trying to get JZ to sign them. Anthrax actually had to take care of them and give them a place to live when they got there as they had no money whatsoever. It was just after that that JZ decided to let them record an album after hearing their demo of Soldiers of Metal, I think. Well, its all on Anthrax - Behind the Music, watch it :p

Metal Militia (or Metal Bigclitty as we used to sing, we were young!), as it was the first Metallica and indeed thrash song I ever heard.

Bugger it, going to turn off this drum 'n' bass and give it a spin now.

No one "Invented" thrash metal, it was a natural musical progression like everything else, but I think it's fair to claim Kill Em All led the way as it was the first thrash metal album to hit the stands...(besides arguably Black Metal). I think it's an album that deserves its place in history.

My personal route to thrash was: "Back In Black" AC/DC - "The Hammer" Motorhead - "Fast As A Shark" Accept - "666" Anvil - "Phantom Lord" Metallica (the live version on the "Jump In The Fire" 12"). Bingo, I was a teenage thrasher.

Ripper wrote:No one "Invented" thrash metal, it was a natural musical progression like everything else, but I think it's fair to claim Kill Em All led the way as it was the first thrash metal album to hit the stands...(besides arguably Black Metal). I think it's an album that deserves its place in history.

No, I don't see the point there. Being the first "album on the stands" has nothing to do with leading the way. If, for sake of arguement, Metallica started way after they did, and after hearing bands like Exodus etc...playing thrash they then went and recorded KEA (so in this instance they WEREN'T there from the beginning of the scene, but rather ripped the idea off from other bands), if that album was then the first thrash album to come out, it would be totally unfair to call Metallica the originators or lay claim to "leading the way". They were just one of dozens of bands, and it just so happened that they got lucky enough to be able to record and release an album first.

Remember that Blind Illusion were formed in 1979, but didn't release an album until 1988 due to lineup changes etc... Granted, they didn't start out as thrash, but they progressed to it as quickly as all the rest, and had just as much influcence in the early days.

Now you're not making any sense. Maybe Pink Floyd will release a thrash album one day, and then THEY will be the originators of thrash, because they formed in 1965.

Ripper wrote:Now you're not making any sense. Maybe Pink Floyd will release a thrash album one day, and then THEY will be the originators of thrash, because they formed in 1965.

I really hope you're joking, because what you just said makes you look like an idiot.

Calm down

JUMP IN THE FIRE . . . THE RIFF IS JUST BRILL!

Metal Militia! What a great closer on a classic album that changed the world!!

can't effin believe it was 23 years ago....i feel so old *sobs*

You probably are so old. But hey, at least you lived through it. Us young guns only get to look back in envy.

No Remorse, all the way.

I don't see why there is an argument.

In context, Metallica were one of the first thrash bands, realeased the first US thrash album and inspired a shitload of bands. Their position in Thrash history is undeniable. Kill Em All isn't the best granted, but it certainly was the start of something. I don't know what it was like hearing that album when it first came out but I imagine the impact would have been amazing. The speed, the energy and the structure of the songs, all amazing. Unarguably, an extremely important thrash album.

Out of context, ie listening to it today, the album is still great fun and has some classic tracks that really get you going (No Remorse, Four Horseman, Jump in the Fire, Whiplash. Fuck it the whole thing). The album is a great listen. I struggle to believe people, especially people into thrash, find it a chore to listen to. Fucking great album.

And at the end of the day, there is always this to remember: it shits all over St Anger. (And all the post 80s material in my view)

Whiplash really turned my head when I first heard it. Pure thrash right there. Sorta makes me cry when I compare it to everything else Metallica did.

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I'm a sucker for songs that have a buildup noise followed by a guitar riff