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writing your own songs (guitar parts)

Postby Matt_Wazza on Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:35 pm

Ive just written a song, for a band im trying to start, which has turned out dam good in my opinion. But im struggling with another one. I just can't seem to think of any riffs or chord sequences. I have some for it but nothing else seems to go. Is there a special technique or something for writing or is just just trial and error? cheers x
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Postby Metal Iain on Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:33 am

The key to writing good music is to have someone whose opinion you respect sit and jam with you whilst you write. If they say 'that riff is awesome' then you probably have a riff. Otherwise drop it.
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Postby MartinC on Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:34 am

The best thing to do is to write using only the chords I, IV and V of a scale and never deviate from scales ever. Especially the major scale. Never deviate.
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Re: writing your own songs (guitar parts)

Postby thrash metal maniac on Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:42 pm

Matt_Wazza wrote:Is there a special technique or something for writing or is just just trial and error?


Neither, I don't think it's possible to just sit and write a song, you need to feel inspired and know what direction you want the music to go in. My best advice is just play guitar and jam out (even by yourself), just mess around with some riffs and ideas, then something should come out of it! Even if it's just practice, it's all good, but the more ideas you experiment with, the more likely you are to be able to write riffs/ a song that you like!

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Postby Metal Iain on Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:41 pm

I've not written a Thrash riff in years but I used to find that I'd get a rhythm in my head then just play it in E Minor and I'd have a riff.

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Postby amok on Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:42 pm

natural songs are the best, i write a lot of our riffs by accident, and i just run with it and usually come up with another one, i play over drum tracks of previous songs and press record. i think having an idea of vocal melody helps as well, it depends what kinda thrash your playing, with us im always thinking about where the vocal melody should go.
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Postby MartinC on Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:44 pm

Just rip other bands off. 90% of our material is ripped off.
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Postby amok on Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:55 pm

MartinC wrote:Just rip other bands off. 90% of our material is ripped off.


aye man, thats the best way to go, see writing thrash as like writing an essay without references and still get away with it, which i do quite well actually haha
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Postby James on Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:55 pm

amok wrote:im always thinking about where the vocal melody should go.


vocal melody? :lol:
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Postby amok on Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:53 pm

aye or line or whatever you call it these days lol :dance:
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Postby Atom on Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:56 pm

Writing songs for thrash is too hard! I have loads of songs that I write that are aaaalmost finished... I just need to make some parts connect better and flow more smoothly. Its so hard to get the right balance between repetitive and interesting.


Aaaaah I hate music! :lol:
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Postby amok on Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:09 pm

Atom wrote:Writing songs for thrash is too hard! I have loads of songs that I write that are aaaalmost finished... I just need to make some parts connect better and flow more smoothly. Its so hard to get the right balance between repetitive and interesting.


Aaaaah I hate music! :lol:


aye man, ive got so many verse riffs that dont go fuckin anywhere! GAH haha
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Postby Atom on Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:10 pm

Yeeeeaah man, exactly! :evil:
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Postby thrash metal maniac on Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:21 pm

amok wrote:aye man, ive got so many verse riffs that dont go fuckin anywhere! GAH haha


aaaaaah, what you've gotta do then is stick them all together to make a song!!!! :dance:

I'm writing a very silly song atm, you'll hear it when we play a gig, it's gonna be funny as fuck!!!
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Postby MartinC on Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:44 pm

I don't have to worry about writing songs for Heretic anyway, Lyall does it all. I concentrate on writing pop songs.
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