Winds of Change
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Re: Winds of Change
by terrorizer on Sun May 11, 2008 9:58 pm
You say fascist bully boy like it's a bad thing.
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Re: Winds of Change
by James on Sun May 11, 2008 10:04 pm
Basically it's totally not what I thought I was proposing...
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Re: Winds of Change
by MartinC on Sun May 11, 2008 10:07 pm
Basically UK thrash has gone down hill thanks to the attempts to 'improve' it. Really pointless, guys. Really.
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Re: Winds of Change
by Craig on Sun May 11, 2008 10:09 pm
To elaborate on the reason why Iain was banned: it wasn't (as Iain will probably be one of the first to try and insinuate) an attempt to be all authoritarian and enforce the rules with an iron fist - but more or less because he was blowing the whole issue completely out of proportion, as I've already said in previous posts, and (in my mind anyway) needed to grow up a bit.
It isn't going to be an all-out crackdown because - to be honest - neither myself nor James actually have the time or the energy to police things that much!
It isn't going to be an all-out crackdown because - to be honest - neither myself nor James actually have the time or the energy to police things that much!
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Re: Winds of Change
by James on Sun May 11, 2008 10:09 pm
The whole thing is quite funny really... I thought I was simply announcing an amicable tone-down, and now a coup d'etat seems to have occured beneath our noses, complete with a political prisoner! Not at all what I had wanted. 
I don't support this ban idea, but have discussed it privately.
Not at all what I had wanted. I don't support this ban idea, but have discussed it privately.
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Re: Winds of Change
by MartinC on Sun May 11, 2008 10:12 pm
I'm afraid this thing has been completely blown out of proportion by the people that want to reform this forum. I genuinely think you've lost the plot guys, and you can't accuse me of not keeping my head screwed on in these debates because I make more sense than half the cunts on here most of the time. I really think that people have been saying there's problems where there aren't. Sorry, I have to agree with the "trouble-makers" in this case.
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Re: Winds of Change
by terrorizer on Sun May 11, 2008 10:12 pm
This is indeed a dark day for UK Thrash. You are in my prayers.
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Re: Winds of Change
by James on Sun May 11, 2008 10:17 pm
Fair enough, I wasn't exactly bothered with the state of the forum and quite enjoyed the chaotic character of it, but it seemed people were fed up with wading through silliness when there was a relevant music topic at stake.
I'm perfectly happy to just move on, keep an eye on flagrant insults, but otherwise enjoy UK Thrash for what it is, and I don't think any concrete "rules" should be announced or people banned.
I'm perfectly happy to just move on, keep an eye on flagrant insults, but otherwise enjoy UK Thrash for what it is, and I don't think any concrete "rules" should be announced or people banned.
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Re: Winds of Change
by Craig on Sun May 11, 2008 10:25 pm
As long as people generally don't make too much of a fuss about having to stick to rules then I don't think there's that much of a problem, and even less of a problem in the case of UKThrash because the "rules" aren't exactly that strict to start with!
Having to stick to rules isn't really that rare in forums - this seems to be the only forum on the Internet where there are absolutely no rules whatsoever. Of course in comparison to "no rules", any kind of introduction of authority is always pretty big, but as long as people don't fly in the face of whatever rules there are and basically say "fuck you, I'm doing it anyway" then there will never be a problem.
While it looks to be harsh on the face of it, the ban wasn't personally aimed at Iain, it was generally for behaving like a five-year-old and chucking toys when in actual fact they didn't even need to be chucked in the first place, because the so-called "fascist rules" aren't really that "fascist" at all!
Having to stick to rules isn't really that rare in forums - this seems to be the only forum on the Internet where there are absolutely no rules whatsoever. Of course in comparison to "no rules", any kind of introduction of authority is always pretty big, but as long as people don't fly in the face of whatever rules there are and basically say "fuck you, I'm doing it anyway" then there will never be a problem.
While it looks to be harsh on the face of it, the ban wasn't personally aimed at Iain, it was generally for behaving like a five-year-old and chucking toys when in actual fact they didn't even need to be chucked in the first place, because the so-called "fascist rules" aren't really that "fascist" at all!
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Re: Winds of Change
by James on Sun May 11, 2008 10:29 pm
How about we carry on as before, except to stick with one 'rule': EVERYTHING IN MODERATION. And I don't mean forum moderation 
(note: does not apply if mine and Jamie's porn wars ever resume)
Basically, the Metal Iain thread was a stupid move and it could have been addressed privately - I do think things were made out to be much worse than they were, and I also think that the complainers are making this out to be more of an apocalypse than it is.
In that spirit we'll bring Iain back from the black hole of Calcutta, as lots of us still appreciate his Scotch aura, and know he is just a loveable sissy really.
(note: does not apply if mine and Jamie's porn wars ever resume)Basically, the Metal Iain thread was a stupid move and it could have been addressed privately - I do think things were made out to be much worse than they were, and I also think that the complainers are making this out to be more of an apocalypse than it is.
In that spirit we'll bring Iain back from the black hole of Calcutta, as lots of us still appreciate his Scotch aura, and know he is just a loveable sissy really.
thrashduck wrote:And the internet was without uk thrash form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of James moved upon the face of the waters.
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Re: Winds of Change
by Craig on Sun May 11, 2008 10:34 pm
James wrote:How about we carry on before, except to stick with one 'rule': EVERYTHING IN MODERATION. And I don't mean forum moderation
True, the ban has been revoked - but on the basis that Iain actually takes what's been said on board
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Bash.org wrote:<Patrician|Away> what does your robot do, sam
<bovril> it collects data about the surrounding environment, then discards it and drives into walls
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Re: Winds of Change
by terrorizer on Sun May 11, 2008 10:40 pm
"If you want a picture of the future of UK Thrash, imagine a boot stamping on a Member's face, forever."
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Re: Winds of Change
by James on Sun May 11, 2008 10:41 pm
Group Hug.
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Re: Winds of Change
by terrorizer on Sun May 11, 2008 10:45 pm
James wrote:Group Hug.
With your vinegar strokes face? Not a chance.
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Re: Winds of Change
by James on Sun May 11, 2008 10:47 pm
Another point - for those moaners who genuinely can't handle internet banter - use the 'ignore user' option!
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