Filth Hounds of Hades is totally mediocre, can't comment on their other stuff though.

Tank sound pretty good from what I've heard.

Listening to a NWOBHM comp CD a mate of mine did a few years ago, packed with quality tunes like Diamond Head "Shoot Out the Lights", Dark Star "Lady of Mars" (yes the main riff is nicked from "Doctor Doctor" but who cares apart from UFO?), Trespass "Stormchild" and Witchfinder General "Free Country" amongst many others. I love the NWOBHM almost as much as I love Thrash!

Immortalicide wrote:saxon and motorhead dont sound alike at all!!!


kerrang started in '80 by then motorhead were an established, headlining metal band, and how can they be new wave when the musicians in the band had been recording for years? Lemmy had a no3 charting song in '72 with hawkwind FFS!!


predominantly, not exclusively!! All compilations have some well known bands and some smaller bands, and are usually put out by multi-nationals, who use popular bands of the time as a vehicle to get their LP exposure and sales.

1. mentally swap the vocals on a few early songs (a little trick I was told to do back in the day by someone who thought the same as me). They sound more similar than you'd imagine.

2. If my calling Motorhead NWOBHM is simply down to Kerrang's mis-categorisation then there's nothing I can do about it but shrug my shoulders and say it doesn't really surprise me.
Rightly or wrongly though, things stay with you, and for me they will always be NWOBHM, regardless of what they sound like. The fact that they teamed up with Wendy O'Williams and Girlschool doesn't help either.

3. Fair point. I've had a delve back into the past and looked at some of the tracklistings for compilations claiming to be "the best of" a certain genre and the only ones which seem to stay true to the claim are the Speed Kills series.

Okay if it makes you feel better, Metallica aren't a thrash band at all, and Waysted are NWOBHM.

Bit of a glib answer there. Expected a bit more to be honest. I'm enjoying this.

Oh and as you say Waysted sound like Def Leppard, a band who were a NWOBHM band in the beginning but chased the $$$ and became more hard rock, just like Waysted

And both became ghastly, ghastly bands recording hideous, mind paralysing shit. One just happened to sell more records than the other before people caught on though.

So Wendy O'Williams is NWOBHM now is she?

I'm no expert on NWOBHM but I've read a book by a man who certainly is. My rule of thumb is simple: if the band are in "The NWOBHM Encyclopedia" by Malc Macmillan they are NWOBHM, if they aren't, they're not. Simple. Go out and buy a copy, it's a cracking read!

terrorizer wrote:So Wendy O'Williams is NWOBHM now is she?

I'm no expert on NWOBHM but I've read a book by a man who certainly is. My rule of thumb is simple: if the band are in "The NWOBHM Encyclopedia" by Malc Macmillan they are NWOBHM, if they aren't, they're not. Simple. Go out and buy a copy, it's a cracking read!

Been meaning to get it for ages and ages, so just been looking for it on'tinternet, and got one on amazon for £14

I would like to point out however, that i know of at least one NWOBHM band who werent british. They were from sweden and called the E F band. I found their "self made suicide" 7" in a charity shop for 50p, and sold it on ebay for just over £20

The EF Band are indeed in the good book. Tell you what instead of tossing back and forth what is and what isn't NWOBHM, how about we talk about the music?

Oh, and is this a record, six pages and still on-topic!

terrorizer wrote:So Wendy O'Williams is NWOBHM now is she?

I'm no expert on NWOBHM but I've read a book by a man who certainly is. My rule of thumb is simple: if the band are in "The NWOBHM Encyclopedia" by Malc Macmillan they are NWOBHM, if they aren't, they're not. Simple. Go out and buy a copy, it's a cracking read!

To be honest, apart from the Motorhead collaboration, I haven't a bloody clue what WOW sounded like so that really was a bad example. She seemed to appear a fair amount on those aforementioned compilations but what I did hear I didn't care for.

For years, (from about 1984-1988), I thought Kerrang was the holy grail for all things metal and got pretty much all of my information etc from there. Seeing as I had nobody around me whatsoever into the same kind of music, that was my only real source of knowledge.
If they said Band X was Category X then, like I said - rightly or wrongly - I went with it.

K!, like any music magazine, does like to slot bands into little boxes, sometimes they even get it right. Seriously though if you want a damn good read buy the book, you can probably pick it up on Amazon for the price of a couple of CDs.

terrorizer wrote:K!, like any music magazine, does like to slot bands into little boxes, sometimes they even get it right. Seriously though if you want a damn good read buy the book, you can probably pick it up on Amazon for the price of a couple of CDs.

I'm due a bit of money this month so why the hell not. Cheers.

Immortalicide wrote:

jonny_boy34 wrote:But what about Yeah Judas Fucking Priest Yeah? Tell me right bloody now why they aren't NWOBHM. Alright?

Priest preceded NWOBHM by a good few years. The early priest material is right for the time, being more 70s rock than metal. They May have been a british heavy metal band in 1978, that didnt make them NWOBHM though. Same with Motorhead. You cant really say just because they were british, and played HM, they were NWOBHM, for fks sake, you'll be wanting to call whitesnake NWOBHM next

True. I didn't think about that. Well there we go, that's all I wanted to know.

Whitesnake are definitely NWOBHM.

jonny_boy34 wrote:Whitesnake are definitely NWOBHM.

No they are not young Jon.

I still like them though.

check out this image of bad late 80's whitesnake....yum yum

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This is a great topic. I really want to get into some more NWOBHM, I really love the genre.

I think the reason Priest are constantly called NWOBHM is that come 1980, they did the classic priest move and jumped on the band wagon with British Steel. That was a very NWOBHM sounding album, but considering it was their 6th studio album, it kind of takes them out of the running. This book sounds great, I may have to get it come next payday.

terrorizer wrote:

jonny_boy34 wrote:Whitesnake are definitely NWOBHM.

This is why I love the internet, no one can tell when I'm joking. And please let me assure you, I definitely was joking. Whitesnake make me want to vomit a little bit, apart from Still Of The Night which is brilliant. And well they are quite enjoyable actually some times, but in a sort of guilty pleasure kind of way. I still hate them.