Lev - Pulverizer wrote:Iron Maiden are the greatest band of all time. There's no debate.

Yes there is. No they are not!

Yeah, they're not.

Throw in a suggestion then, ladies.

there is no 'BEST BAND EVEERRR!!!!11' it's just definately not Iron Maiden.

Not saying maiden are the best band ever. However they are a very good band. There is songs on a few album which i dont like but most of the albums with the exception (probally spelt that wrong) of Seventh son has some very good songs on them. Seventh son is just a perfect album. The person who got me into metal hated Maiden. They have writen some great catchy songs, and more important is the fact that Bruce and co put on a bloody good live show.

There is bands that i think are overrated. Not naming them here though.

Fools!

Everyone knows Ratt are the greatest band of all time. I mean, Robin Crosby has put his knob inside Tawny Kitaen - a privilege very few people (that aren't famous) have had the honour of.

boovidge wrote:there is no 'BEST BAND EVEERRR!!!!11' it's just definately not Iron Maiden.

For the purpose of this thread there is and it is.

No love for their albums Killers and Iron Maiden? I think those albums are some of the best NWOBHM ever.

Anytime I see the words, "Phantom of the Opera" I hear the Iron Maiden riff in my head.

Anytime I see the words, "Phantom of the Opera" I hear the Iron Maiden riff in my head.

Any yime I hear The Phantom of the Opera, I think about the old Daley Thompson Lucozade advert.
(One for the oldies there)

swizzlenuts wrote:No love for their albums Killers and Iron Maiden? I think those albums are some of the best NWOBHM ever.

Super love for those albums. Paul was the man.

Lev - Pulverizer wrote:

jonny_boy34 wrote: but it still suffers from problems of repetition in terms of song structure, and also the same chord progression (E/C/G/D) is used about 50 billion times in every song

Welcome to the world of Harris! - It wouldn't be the same without it. I'd be disapointed if they didn't use that chord progression. Maiden's signature sound. With a lot of members and eras, it's that one thing that they hold onto that never changes.

I have to disagree with you completely there I'm afraid. As far as I can tell (and I've studied the ways of the Harris pretty intently!) they didn't start overusing that particular chord progression until this very album - obviously it has been used a fair amount throughout the years, but never so obviously with so little imagination to go with it. It's on nearly every song - for example, off the top of my head, it's the chorus of Different World, almost the whole of These Colours Don't Run, the bridge of The Longest Day, the verse and middle section of For The Greater Good of God, and probably more that I can't remember. It seems a silly thing to complain about I know, but when I keep hearing the same thing over and over again, I get a distinct feeling that they are getting very lazy and reliant on a formula that was never that original or good in the first place. If I were to write a whole album, I'd go out of my way to make sure I didn't do the same thing on nearly every bloody song. And I know Iron Maiden are the kings of sticking to formulae (plural), but they've never been this lazy. And also all the bloody acoustic intros and outros are pointless and rubbish apart from in the Legacy. The only reason all this upset me so much is because I love this band more than my mother. More songs like The Pilgrim, that's what they need.

What I most definitely will agree with is that Seventh Son is a perfect album. It's absolutely unbelievably brilliantly amazing. It was my favourite album of all time in the whole world until I realised I preferred Lateralus by Tool. And that's krufts...

Lev - Pulverizer wrote:

jonny_boy34 wrote: I'd love it if if they rerecorded a 'Best of Blaze Era' CD with just the best songs redone by them with good production and Bruce. Both The Clansman and Sign of the Cross in Rock in Rio are amazing and unbelievable.

Indeed they are. And that sounds like a very good plan. I'd enjoy that. What do you think of Bruces version of Di'Anno songs?

Indeed, I forgot about this question. I didn't actually like them that much. They were great fun to listen to because they chose amazing tracks to re-record, but they lack the charm of the Di'Anno versions. Charlotte the Harlot is one of my favourite tracks in the world! And Bruce does a bit too much wailing and madness.

IRON MAIDEN are one of those few good (excellent) songs per LP bands, but your typical maiden album has more filler than a car from dodgy daves auto sales

jonny_boy34 wrote:I have to disagree with you completely there I'm afraid. As far as I can tell (and I've studied the ways of the Harris pretty intently!) they didn't start overusing that particular chord progression until this very album - obviously it has been used a fair amount throughout the years, but never so obviously with so little imagination to go with it. It's on nearly every song - for example, off the top of my head, it's the chorus of Different World, almost the whole of These Colours Don't Run, the bridge of The Longest Day, the verse and middle section of For The Greater Good of God, and probably more that I can't remember. It seems a silly thing to complain about I know, but when I keep hearing the same thing over and over again, I get a distinct feeling that they are getting very lazy and reliant on a formula that was never that original or good in the first place. If I were to write a whole album, I'd go out of my way to make sure I didn't do the same thing on nearly every bloody song. And I know Iron Maiden are the kings of sticking to formulae (plural), but they've never been this lazy. And also all the bloody acoustic intros and outros are pointless and rubbish apart from in the Legacy. The only reason all this upset me so much is because I love this band more than my mother. More songs like The Pilgrim, that's what they need.

Totally agree. The new album is a pile of shit and the intro/outros are terrible.

Iron Maiden are my favourite metal band ever though. Brave New World got me into metal.

James wrote:

jonny_boy34 wrote:I have to disagree with you completely there I'm afraid. As far as I can tell (and I've studied the ways of the Harris pretty intently!) they didn't start overusing that particular chord progression until this very album - obviously it has been used a fair amount throughout the years, but never so obviously with so little imagination to go with it. It's on nearly every song - for example, off the top of my head, it's the chorus of Different World, almost the whole of These Colours Don't Run, the bridge of The Longest Day, the verse and middle section of For The Greater Good of God, and probably more that I can't remember. It seems a silly thing to complain about I know, but when I keep hearing the same thing over and over again, I get a distinct feeling that they are getting very lazy and reliant on a formula that was never that original or good in the first place. If I were to write a whole album, I'd go out of my way to make sure I didn't do the same thing on nearly every bloody song. And I know Iron Maiden are the kings of sticking to formulae (plural), but they've never been this lazy. And also all the bloody acoustic intros and outros are pointless and rubbish apart from in the Legacy. The only reason all this upset me so much is because I love this band more than my mother. More songs like The Pilgrim, that's what they need.

Totally agree. The new album is a pile of shit and the intro/outros are terrible.

Iron Maiden are my favourite metal band ever though. Brave New World got me into metal.

It got me into Maiden! Well, that and Seventh Son. That's probably why they're my favourite Maiden albums. Pure brilliance from start to finish on both.